{"id":1358,"date":"2011-12-30T08:55:12","date_gmt":"2011-12-30T14:55:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wiredprairie.us\/blog\/?p=1358"},"modified":"2012-01-04T21:27:43","modified_gmt":"2012-01-05T03:27:43","slug":"nest-thermostat-update-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wiredprairie.us\/blog\/index.php\/archives\/1358","title":{"rendered":"Nest Thermostat Review, Update #2"},"content":{"rendered":"

I\u2019ve discussed my Nest thermostat experience a few times and am slowly becoming less convinced that it is ready for the market if you\u2019re at all technically savvy and you\u2019re easily frustrated by things not working the way you\u2019d expect (like, you know how to setup e-mail on your phone).<\/p>\n

Update #6<\/a>,\u00a0Update #5<\/a>,\u00a0Update #4<\/a>,\u00a0Update #3<\/a>,\u00a0Update #2<\/a>,\u00a0Update #1<\/a>,\u00a0Install<\/a><\/p>\n

Here\u2019s a image of the schedule for the second floor, where my computer\/den is located.<\/p>\n

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On Monday and Tuesday of this week, my wife and I had the day off and were home most of the day. We spent a lot of time upstairs as her computer and crafting area is on the second floor, as is my den. So, the heat was turned up most of the day.<\/p>\n

The \u201clearning\u201d mode of the thermostat decided that as we were home two days in a row, that the whole week likely was going to look like that apparently. As you can see, the same schedule was replicated through all week days. \"image\"<\/a><\/p>\n

On a normal morning, I often go to my den and do a bit of tinkering before leaving for work. However, I rarely turn up the thermostat and instead just leave it at the preset temperature. I\u2019m not in my den long enough to justify the amount of energy it would take to heat the second floor.<\/p>\n

So, it\u2019s frustrating that the thermostat would turn up the heat automatically at 9:30am, long after I\u2019ve left for work and then run it all day long. Thankfully, after 3 hours, it apparently realizes there\u2019s no one home, and will automatically adjust the temperature.<\/p>\n

Since I didn\u2019t turn the heat UP, I don\u2019t expect to need to turn it DOWN before I leave (I leave earlier than 9:30am). (Turn it down from what?)<\/p>\n

I could turn off the learning features. But, then one of the key features of the thermostat is turned off:<\/p>\n

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GregN left a comment yesterday where he mentioned that Nest support recommended to try turning of the learning feature (activating \u201clearning pause\u201d).<\/p>\n

Now, I need to go fix the schedule to reflect my reality. Again.<\/p>\n

Nest, are you listening? This is a perfect example of my user experience not matching with the expectations Nest has set.<\/p>\n

Update (December 30, 2011)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I tweeted this post (and directed it at nest and they did respond):<\/p>\n

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Update (December 31, 2011)<\/strong><\/p>\n

My wife had the day off on Friday (Dec 30) and adjusted the downstairs thermostat after lunch. Apparently, the thermostat believes that\u2019s going to be a new routine for Friday\u2019s (at about 1:30pm, temperature is set to 68F).<\/p>\n

Just the day before I\u2019d fixed the schedule for every day. It\u2019s not taking into account manual schedule changes and giving them proper weighting.<\/p>\n

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The learning algorithm needs some help.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I\u2019ve discussed my Nest thermostat experience a few times and am slowly becoming less convinced that it is ready for the market if you\u2019re at all technically savvy and you\u2019re easily frustrated by things not working the way you\u2019d expect (like, you know how to setup e-mail on your phone). Update #6,\u00a0Update #5,\u00a0Update #4,\u00a0Update #3,\u00a0Update […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[5,6,3],"tags":[49,48,45,47,46],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pd5QIe-lU","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1382,"url":"https:\/\/www.wiredprairie.us\/blog\/index.php\/archives\/1382","url_meta":{"origin":1358,"position":0},"title":"Nest Thermostat Review, Update #4","date":"January 2, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"Update #6, Update #5, Update #4, Update #3, Update #2, Update #1, Install A bit more about my Nest thermostat experiences. 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Just move along if you\u2019re not interested. :-) Here\u2019s the support e-mail I just sent Nest (via their online contact form) (Dec. 31, 2011, 9:15am): We have three Nest thermostats in our\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "General"","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1432,"url":"https:\/\/www.wiredprairie.us\/blog\/index.php\/archives\/1432","url_meta":{"origin":1358,"position":4},"title":"Nest Thermostat Review, Update #7","date":"January 7, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"Update #6, Update #5, Update #4, Update #3, Update #2, Update #1, Install I received a replacement thermostat earlier this week as promised by Nest Labs. I had time this afternoon to do a swap and reinstall. 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